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	<title>Comments on: Facebook Takes A Shot at LinkedIn</title>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
		<link>http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/10/facebook-takes-a-shot-at-linkedin/#comment-5890</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a college student whose primary network is my university. However, the options for "Whatever I Can Get" and "Random Play" are not available on my "Looking For" section of my profile. I do not have "Networking" checked, and I never have. I was updating other things, and noticed those two were missing, did a Google search to try to find out when and why, and I came here. Unless they've since removed them from everyone's profile (given the last comment here was in October), I don't know why those two options would be missing from mine. Oh well, I never had those checked anyhow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a college student whose primary network is my university. However, the options for &#8220;Whatever I Can Get&#8221; and &#8220;Random Play&#8221; are not available on my &#8220;Looking For&#8221; section of my profile. I do not have &#8220;Networking&#8221; checked, and I never have. I was updating other things, and noticed those two were missing, did a Google search to try to find out when and why, and I came here. Unless they&#8217;ve since removed them from everyone&#8217;s profile (given the last comment here was in October), I don&#8217;t know why those two options would be missing from mine. Oh well, I never had those checked anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
		<link>http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/10/facebook-takes-a-shot-at-linkedin/#comment-14215</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a college student whose primary network is my university. However, the options for "Whatever I Can Get" and "Random Play" are not available on my "Looking For" section of my profile. I do not have "Networking" checked, and I never have. I was updating other things, and noticed those two were missing, did a Google search to try to find out when and why, and I came here. Unless they've since removed them from everyone's profile (given the last comment here was in October), I don't know why those two options would be missing from mine. Oh well, I never had those checked anyhow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a college student whose primary network is my university. However, the options for &#8220;Whatever I Can Get&#8221; and &#8220;Random Play&#8221; are not available on my &#8220;Looking For&#8221; section of my profile. I do not have &#8220;Networking&#8221; checked, and I never have. I was updating other things, and noticed those two were missing, did a Google search to try to find out when and why, and I came here. Unless they&#8217;ve since removed them from everyone&#8217;s profile (given the last comment here was in October), I don&#8217;t know why those two options would be missing from mine. Oh well, I never had those checked anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bauser</title>
		<link>http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/10/facebook-takes-a-shot-at-linkedin/#comment-3188</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bauser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm the only one still following this discussion aren't I?

Anyway, I received an e-mail from Facebook customer support this afternoon that says "Facebook recently changed these settings to provide non-college users with a more mature set of options."

So my missing 2 boxes aren't a bug. Facebook just thinks I'm more mature than the rest of you. Go figure.

Now I'm wondering how Facebook defines "non-college users."  I'm actually a member of two university networks, but not a student, and neither network is my primary.  Would I be allowed to look for "Whatever I can get" if I reprioritized my networks?  Do I have to be a student?  Does this mean that Facebook users who never go to college can't look for "Random play?" (I would feel bad for any 19-year olds denied to their right to have low standards just because they didn't go to college.)

This strikes me as very weird place (in the user interface) for Facebook to get prudish about its users' social lives.

I e-mailed some questions back to Customer Support. Let's see if they answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the only one still following this discussion aren&#8217;t I?</p>
<p>Anyway, I received an e-mail from Facebook customer support this afternoon that says &#8220;Facebook recently changed these settings to provide non-college users with a more mature set of options.&#8221;</p>
<p>So my missing 2 boxes aren&#8217;t a bug. Facebook just thinks I&#8217;m more mature than the rest of you. Go figure.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m wondering how Facebook defines &#8220;non-college users.&#8221;  I&#8217;m actually a member of two university networks, but not a student, and neither network is my primary.  Would I be allowed to look for &#8220;Whatever I can get&#8221; if I reprioritized my networks?  Do I have to be a student?  Does this mean that Facebook users who never go to college can&#8217;t look for &#8220;Random play?&#8221; (I would feel bad for any 19-year olds denied to their right to have low standards just because they didn&#8217;t go to college.)</p>
<p>This strikes me as very weird place (in the user interface) for Facebook to get prudish about its users&#8217; social lives.</p>
<p>I e-mailed some questions back to Customer Support. Let&#8217;s see if they answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bauser</title>
		<link>http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/10/facebook-takes-a-shot-at-linkedin/#comment-14214</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bauser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm the only one still following this discussion aren't I?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, I received an e-mail from Facebook customer support this afternoon that says "Facebook recently changed these settings to provide non-college users with a more mature set of options."&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So my missing 2 boxes aren't a bug. Facebook just thinks I'm more mature than the rest of you. Go figure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I'm wondering how Facebook defines "non-college users."  I'm actually a member of two university networks, but not a student, and neither network is my primary.  Would I be allowed to look for "Whatever I can get" if I reprioritized my networks?  Do I have to be a student?  Does this mean that Facebook users who never go to college can't look for "Random play?" (I would feel bad for any 19-year olds denied to their right to have low standards just because they didn't go to college.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This strikes me as very weird place (in the user interface) for Facebook to get prudish about its users' social lives.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I e-mailed some questions back to Customer Support. Let's see if they answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the only one still following this discussion aren&#8217;t I?</p>
<p>Anyway, I received an e-mail from Facebook customer support this afternoon that says &#8220;Facebook recently changed these settings to provide non-college users with a more mature set of options.&#8221;</p>
<p>So my missing 2 boxes aren&#8217;t a bug. Facebook just thinks I&#8217;m more mature than the rest of you. Go figure.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m wondering how Facebook defines &#8220;non-college users.&#8221;  I&#8217;m actually a member of two university networks, but not a student, and neither network is my primary.  Would I be allowed to look for &#8220;Whatever I can get&#8221; if I reprioritized my networks?  Do I have to be a student?  Does this mean that Facebook users who never go to college can&#8217;t look for &#8220;Random play?&#8221; (I would feel bad for any 19-year olds denied to their right to have low standards just because they didn&#8217;t go to college.)</p>
<p>This strikes me as very weird place (in the user interface) for Facebook to get prudish about its users&#8217; social lives.</p>
<p>I e-mailed some questions back to Customer Support. Let&#8217;s see if they answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bauser</title>
		<link>http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/10/facebook-takes-a-shot-at-linkedin/#comment-3085</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bauser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, wait -- it isn't my personal glitch.  The trackback link in message 8 includes a screenshot of the same problem: no "Random Play" and "Whatever I can get."  See, there is something wrong!

(Or maybe I'm just not considered cool enough for "Random Play."  Come on, Facebook -- I can be just as shallow as the next guy, I swear!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, wait &#8212; it isn&#8217;t my personal glitch.  The trackback link in message 8 includes a screenshot of the same problem: no &#8220;Random Play&#8221; and &#8220;Whatever I can get.&#8221;  See, there is something wrong!</p>
<p>(Or maybe I&#8217;m just not considered cool enough for &#8220;Random Play.&#8221;  Come on, Facebook &#8212; I can be just as shallow as the next guy, I swear!)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bauser</title>
		<link>http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/10/facebook-takes-a-shot-at-linkedin/#comment-14213</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bauser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, wait -- it isn't my personal glitch.  The trackback link in message 8 includes a screenshot of the same problem: no "Random Play" and "Whatever I can get."  See, there is something wrong!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Or maybe I'm just not considered cool enough for "Random Play."  Come on, Facebook -- I can be just as shallow as the next guy, I swear!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, wait &#8212; it isn&#8217;t my personal glitch.  The trackback link in message 8 includes a screenshot of the same problem: no &#8220;Random Play&#8221; and &#8220;Whatever I can get.&#8221;  See, there is something wrong!</p>
<p>(Or maybe I&#8217;m just not considered cool enough for &#8220;Random Play.&#8221;  Come on, Facebook &#8212; I can be just as shallow as the next guy, I swear!)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bauser</title>
		<link>http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/10/facebook-takes-a-shot-at-linkedin/#comment-3071</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bauser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well, I guess the missing boxes are my personal glitch.  (It wouldn't be the first time something nonsensical happened to my account -- there were a couple of weeks last month where all of my Past Events disappeared.)

Getting back on topic: Adding a "Networking" purpose and friend-grouping won't &lt;i&gt;by themselves&lt;/i&gt;, make Facebook a competitor for LinkedIn.  Like the "Dating" purpose, "Networking" is mostly an announcement that the user is OK with a certain level of unsolicited e-mail. LinkedIn still has business features, like industry categorizations and degrees of separation that Facebook doesn't.

In fact, LinkedIn's version of purpose is much more nuanced, letting users announce whether they're accepting "job inquires," "consulting offers," "business inquiries," etc.  For power users who actually use LinkedIn to network with associates-of-associates, Facebook has nothing equivalent.

Creating the "Networking" purpose (and the future plans for friend-grouping) are only part of what it would take to compete with LinkedIn's feature set.  Facebook, at the very least, needs to add detail to the "Work" section of user profiles (industry/institution types), let business networkers fine-tune their contact preferences (this would probably require senders flagging messages by purpose, a feature Facebook barely has now), and figure out a way to encourage communication between indirect contacts that doesn't infringe on the degrees-of-separation patent LinkedIn benefits from.

Which are all features I wouldn't use anyway (I only joined LinkedIn because I was helping my brother pump up &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; network), but they seem to be things that the LinkedIn power users love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, I guess the missing boxes are my personal glitch.  (It wouldn&#8217;t be the first time something nonsensical happened to my account &#8212; there were a couple of weeks last month where all of my Past Events disappeared.)</p>
<p>Getting back on topic: Adding a &#8220;Networking&#8221; purpose and friend-grouping won&#8217;t <i>by themselves</i>, make Facebook a competitor for LinkedIn.  Like the &#8220;Dating&#8221; purpose, &#8220;Networking&#8221; is mostly an announcement that the user is OK with a certain level of unsolicited e-mail. LinkedIn still has business features, like industry categorizations and degrees of separation that Facebook doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>In fact, LinkedIn&#8217;s version of purpose is much more nuanced, letting users announce whether they&#8217;re accepting &#8220;job inquires,&#8221; &#8220;consulting offers,&#8221; &#8220;business inquiries,&#8221; etc.  For power users who actually use LinkedIn to network with associates-of-associates, Facebook has nothing equivalent.</p>
<p>Creating the &#8220;Networking&#8221; purpose (and the future plans for friend-grouping) are only part of what it would take to compete with LinkedIn&#8217;s feature set.  Facebook, at the very least, needs to add detail to the &#8220;Work&#8221; section of user profiles (industry/institution types), let business networkers fine-tune their contact preferences (this would probably require senders flagging messages by purpose, a feature Facebook barely has now), and figure out a way to encourage communication between indirect contacts that doesn&#8217;t infringe on the degrees-of-separation patent LinkedIn benefits from.</p>
<p>Which are all features I wouldn&#8217;t use anyway (I only joined LinkedIn because I was helping my brother pump up <i>his</i> network), but they seem to be things that the LinkedIn power users love.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bauser</title>
		<link>http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/10/facebook-takes-a-shot-at-linkedin/#comment-14212</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bauser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well, I guess the missing boxes are my personal glitch.  (It wouldn't be the first time something nonsensical happened to my account -- there were a couple of weeks last month where all of my Past Events disappeared.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Getting back on topic: Adding a "Networking" purpose and friend-grouping won't &lt;i&gt;by themselves&lt;/i&gt;, make Facebook a competitor for LinkedIn.  Like the "Dating" purpose, "Networking" is mostly an announcement that the user is OK with a certain level of unsolicited e-mail. LinkedIn still has business features, like industry categorizations and degrees of separation that Facebook doesn't.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In fact, LinkedIn's version of purpose is much more nuanced, letting users announce whether they're accepting "job inquires," "consulting offers," "business inquiries," etc.  For power users who actually use LinkedIn to network with associates-of-associates, Facebook has nothing equivalent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Creating the "Networking" purpose (and the future plans for friend-grouping) are only part of what it would take to compete with LinkedIn's feature set.  Facebook, at the very least, needs to add detail to the "Work" section of user profiles (industry/institution types), let business networkers fine-tune their contact preferences (this would probably require senders flagging messages by purpose, a feature Facebook barely has now), and figure out a way to encourage communication between indirect contacts that doesn't infringe on the degrees-of-separation patent LinkedIn benefits from.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which are all features I wouldn't use anyway (I only joined LinkedIn because I was helping my brother pump up &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; network), but they seem to be things that the LinkedIn power users love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, I guess the missing boxes are my personal glitch.  (It wouldn&#8217;t be the first time something nonsensical happened to my account &#8212; there were a couple of weeks last month where all of my Past Events disappeared.)</p>
<p>Getting back on topic: Adding a &#8220;Networking&#8221; purpose and friend-grouping won&#8217;t <i>by themselves</i>, make Facebook a competitor for LinkedIn.  Like the &#8220;Dating&#8221; purpose, &#8220;Networking&#8221; is mostly an announcement that the user is OK with a certain level of unsolicited e-mail. LinkedIn still has business features, like industry categorizations and degrees of separation that Facebook doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>In fact, LinkedIn&#8217;s version of purpose is much more nuanced, letting users announce whether they&#8217;re accepting &#8220;job inquires,&#8221; &#8220;consulting offers,&#8221; &#8220;business inquiries,&#8221; etc.  For power users who actually use LinkedIn to network with associates-of-associates, Facebook has nothing equivalent.</p>
<p>Creating the &#8220;Networking&#8221; purpose (and the future plans for friend-grouping) are only part of what it would take to compete with LinkedIn&#8217;s feature set.  Facebook, at the very least, needs to add detail to the &#8220;Work&#8221; section of user profiles (industry/institution types), let business networkers fine-tune their contact preferences (this would probably require senders flagging messages by purpose, a feature Facebook barely has now), and figure out a way to encourage communication between indirect contacts that doesn&#8217;t infringe on the degrees-of-separation patent LinkedIn benefits from.</p>
<p>Which are all features I wouldn&#8217;t use anyway (I only joined LinkedIn because I was helping my brother pump up <i>his</i> network), but they seem to be things that the LinkedIn power users love.</p>
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		<title>By: LinkedIn: Social Networking without the Social &#171; PR, New Media, GTD - Lines from Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LinkedIn: Social Networking without the Social &#171; PR, New Media, GTD - Lines from Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  I&#8217;m on LinkedIn, and I think it&#8217;s a good site for what it does, but I agree with Nick O&#8217;Neill at AllFacebook that Facebook&#8217;s moves into professional networking will put a lot of pressure on LinkedIn. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  I&#8217;m on LinkedIn, and I think it&#8217;s a good site for what it does, but I agree with Nick O&#8217;Neill at AllFacebook that Facebook&#8217;s moves into professional networking will put a lot of pressure on LinkedIn. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook attaque Linkedin&#8230; &#124; le blog FaceBook</title>
		<link>http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/10/facebook-takes-a-shot-at-linkedin/#comment-3059</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook attaque Linkedin&#8230; &#124; le blog FaceBook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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